WM - Wilma (Miller) Morrison, interviewee / LR - Lyn Royce, interviewer
WM: During the war, um... We had relatives in the States. Actually, Mr Cromwell...
WM: ...moved to the States when he die... well, he, he lived in, uh, Ann Arbor, Michigan. And then when he retired he moved to Cleveland, his sister lived there; she was married and lived there. And so they were always inviting us over; so, I guess when we got $1.98 together, my mother and I went to, uh, uh, visit them in Cleveland and this is what you had to have - it was during the war, so you had to have uh, a...
LR: The non-resident...
WM: ...non-resident, uh, certificate.
LR: So that was just for, just to go for a visit you still had to have it?
WM: To the States. Yeah. Mhmmm.
LR: ...to the States,
WM: During the war.
LR: During the war. Now... So that was instead of a passport? Or...
WM: Yeah; mhmm.
LR: Oaky, 'cause...
WM: Passport; we never ever thought about passports
LR: Never thought about passports... So there's 1 for your mother? You went with her; you didn't have to have 1?
WM: Yeah, I don't know; I never did find 1.
LR: Okay. Interesting
WM: We had, I know we had, what did I do with them? We, because we had certificates during the war; we all carried a certificate, every man, woman and child.
WM: Had to; and, and in fact, I have my mother's 1 from the 1st World War - I'll have to bring that in.